


While on reconnaissance of Tulkeran, Nablus area, escorted by another Bristol Fighter at Lubban we met two formations of H.A., one of 5 which was about 500 feet below us, and the other of 3 about 1000 feet above us and about 100 yards East. All H.A. appeared to be Albatros Scouts. The formation of 5 passed beneath our tail. I turned and dived on the last machine of formation, leaving escort machine above me to look after 3 Scouts above, who did not show any inclination to attack. I fired a burst of about 30 into H.A. who was seen to lose control of machine which turned on it's back and went down completely out of control. I turned my attention ot the other machines so could not follow down. The H.A. then broke off the engagement. Observer fired 100 rounds at different machines of the formationsThe Potts brothers were from the Hawkesbury area in Sydney. One of the brothers was shot down and killed in an engagement with a German aircraft which must have been tough for the surviving brother. It is hard to remember that the men doing the fighting were in their early twenties.





The aircraft [1 Sqn Bristol Fighters] attached to Lawrences Army at Amman] could not work in the desert east of Amman without supplies and the normal line of supply was via Akaba on the Red Sea. This was useless so the Handley Page was brought into service and used to transport petrol, oil, bombs and ammunition. It went out during daylight to arrive at Azrak just before dark. It was escorted by two Bristol Fighters which went on to bomb the enemy aerodrome at Deraa to distract attention from it. The Handley Page returned that night but it proved to be the best recruiting agent the Arab Army ever had. They had never seen such a huge aircraft, nor had we for that matter, and considered that if the British could produce an aircraft so much bigger than anybody else they knew of, then they must be the people who would win. .... The only trouble was that the Arabs would show their delight by dancing around the Handley Page and firing pistols and other odd weapons into the air to the consternation and alarm of Ross Smith.Consider that Ross Smith was carrying a large load of petrol, bombs and ammunition, it is not surprise he was concerned. After the war ended a second Handley Page (C9700) was flown by Ross Smith and General Borton to India. It was to be the start of record breaking flights for Ross Smith in the post-war period.


During this series of operations our squadron made quite a name for itself. It even made a name for the type of machine it was flying, which hiherto had been considered as rather a 'washout'. This machine is now to be standardised for low flying work.Low flying work and strafing is dangerous and No.2 Squadron AFC took 35% casualties during the Battle of Cambrai while doing this work. The DH5 was used by 2 Sqn AFC, 24 Sqn, 32 Sqn, 41 Sqn, and 64 Sqn RFC. After the Battle of Cambrai it was quickly replaced by SE5a aircraft as they became available. It is safe to say that the DH5 arrived on the front as an obsolete aircraft and probably only because the British were not able to produce enough Sopwith Camels and SE5a aircraft in sufficient numbers to outfit their scout squadrons.







Lieutenant J. L. Sandy, with Sergeant H. F. Hughes as observer, was engaged in observing fire for the 151st Siege Battery, Royal Garrison Artillery (8inch Howitzers). This work had been in progress for some thirty-five minutes when Lieutenant Sandy was attacked, between Deulemont and Armentieres, by a formation consisting of six Albatross D.5a Scouts. Lieutenant Sandy, refusing to dive away, turned and engaged the enemy and succeeded in bringing down one, which landed intact in our lines about a mile and a half north of Armentieres, the wounded pilot being taken prisoner by Infantry of the 21st Battalion, 2nd Australian Division. Meanwhile, the unequal fight continued, and another R.E.8 aircraft of the squadron, piloted by Lieutenant E. J. Jones, with Lieutenant K- C. Hodgson as observer, seeing Lieutenant Sandy so hotly engaged, went to his assistance, with the result that the enemy aircraft withdrew to their own lines. Lieutenant Jones flew round close to the other R.E.8 aircraft and identified it by its number as Lieutenant Sandy's aircraft. About this time a third aircraft of No. 69 Squadron, piloted by Lieutenant H. N. Wrigley, with Lieutenant J. R. Blair as observer, came upon the scene and, to the crews of both these aircraft, Lieutenant Sandy's aircraft and crew appeared to be all right, so Lieutenant Jones returned to Bailleul aerodrome to replenish his ammunition supply. and Lieutenant Wrigley proceeded on his way to carry out an artillery reconnaissance. Lieutenant Sandy's aircraft, not having, returned to the aerodrome at the conclusion of flying for the day. information concerning it was sought by telephone, but it was not until tile following night that a telegram was received from No. 12 Stationary Hospital, St. Pol, to the effect that the dead bodies of Lieutenant Sandy and Sergeant Hughes had been found in a crashed R.E.8 aircraft in a field about 8 kilometres north-east of St. Pol, near the main Bruay-St. Pol road. An armour piercing bullet had passed through the observer's left lung and thence into the base of the pilot's skull, and the medical opinion was that they had been killed instantly during their combat with the enemy aircraft. They had not been injured at all in the crash on landing, nor was the damage to the aircraft very extensive. This afforded a striking example of the stability and flying qualities of the R.E.8. From an examination of the crash it appeared that after the crew had been killed the aircraft had flown itself in wide left-hand circles until the petrol supply ran out, and this theory is supported by the fact that the wind on that day was north-east and would cause a southwest drift. The place where the aircraft was found was on an air distance of 50 miles from the scene of the combat. The Albatross D.5a, brought down by Lieutenant Sandy and Sergeant Hughes was salved by a party of mechanics under Captain Ross under shell fire on the night of the 17th/18th December from the forward position in which it landed. It was brought back to the aerodrome and later, by order 2nd Brigade, Royal Flying Corps, sent to No. 1 Aircraft Depot at St. Omer. A claim to the aircraft was subsequently made, however, by the Australian authorities and it was then handed over to the Australian War Museum.The Albatros which Sandy and Hughes shot down was the Albatros D5390/17 from Jasta 29 flown by Franz Claus. The aircraft was recovered by 3 Squadron AFC and then shipped by the order of 2nd Brigade Royal Flying Corps to No.1 Supply Depot at St Omer and given the "G" Number G101. The Albatros was test flown in England before finally being presented to the Australian Government as a War Trophy. The aircraft was displayed until 1948 when it was removed from the public eye due to a dilapidated condition and stored at the Military Academy at Duntroon. While at Duntroon it was damaged by vandals, a chunk was broken off from the propeller, a hole kicked in the ply skin and a Spandau gun removed. Though the gun was later recovered. In 1966 - 68 the Albatros was moved to Camden in Sydney where it was restored to it's present day condition. The Albatros was on display in the Australian War Memorial's Aircraft Hall until 1999 when it was moved to the Treloar Centre for reconditioning and restoration. D5390/17 is currently undergoing restoration in the Australian War Memorial's Treloar Centre. (more)
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ranomatic : Ah! Too bad for them.
There was no aviation transport wing in World War I. Logistics was either by sea, truck or horse. In Palestine FA300 dominated the air; their aircraft were faster, better armed and more capable. However, logistics for them was a major hassle as petrol had to be brought in by donkey.
The allied supply lines were less extended and followed the ocean ports with the Royal Navy dominating the Mediterranean. The biggest concern were submarines. Aircraft were not powerful enough in WWI to sink a capital ship as they could in WWII.
There were instances were supply lines were stretched and one case in 1918 was when the AFC was supporting Lawrence of Arabia and the Arab irregulars near Deraa. The AFC forward base at Azrak required petrol, oil, ammunition and parts to be constantly flown in.
Fortunately, the AFC squadron had recently received a Handley Page 0/400. It was quickly pressed into transport duties.
The photo was taken by Richard Williams and is from the AWM Collections ID No.A00654. Under Australian copyright law no photograph taken before 1955 can be under copyright any longer.
Richard Williams relates the supply issues with supporting a forward base at Azrak:
The photo was taken by Richard Williams and is from the AWM Collections ID No.A00654. Under Australian copyright law no photograph taken before 1955 can be under copyright any longer.
Richard Williams relates the supply issues with supporting a forward base at Azrak:
The aircraft [two Bristol Fighters] could not work in the desert area east of Amman without supplies and the normal line of supply was via Akaba on the Red Sea. This was useless, so the Handley Page was brought into service and used to transport petrol, oil, bombs and ammunition. It went out during day-light to arrive at Azrak just before dark. It was escorted by two bristol Fighters which went on to bomb the enemy aerodrome at Deraa to distract attention from it [the 0/400].Richard Williams called the 0/400 the best recruiting agent the British had with the Arab Irregulars. As the aircraft was so big and awe inspiring. He notes that the Biffs also knocked down two German aircraft the same day which meant the irregulars had local air superiority courtesy of the AFC and did not have to worry about being attacked from the air. Ross Smith was the pilot of the Handley Page and the story goes that when he landed the Arabs celebrated the arrival of the aircraft by firing their guns into the air and racing around his aircraft on their horses. As Smith's plane was loaded up with flammables and explosives this behaviour apparently made him a bit nervous.
Griggs was an American who joined the Australian Flying Corps and flew with No.2 Squadron. Unfortunately he lost his life during the Battle of Cambrai.

Griggs is fourth from left in the back row.
The Australian Imperial Force [AIF] in the First World War was monoracial, but outside that policy, the AIF was multi-ethnic. Consequently there men of many different nations that served in the AIF; Russians, Danes, English, Singaporeans, Canadians, New Zealanders, etc - and Americans. When the gold rushes in California had petered out, many Americans flooded the Victorian goldfields, and then migrating on to the Western Australian goldfields before ended up in the South African goldrushes. It should be remembered that the groups which resisted the British most at Eureka when it came to arms were Americans.
Albert Griggs was from Meridian, Mississippi and was living in Hobart when he signed up to the AIF. He went through the Fifth (flying) Training Course at Point Cook, which was rare too, as the common path for joining the Australian Flying Corps [AFC] was to be recruited from the Australian Light Horse. After completing his training in Britain he was posted to No.2 Squadron AFC. No.2 Squadron flew the Airco DH5 which was unusual for having 'back-staggered' wings. This caused some problems in a fighter aircraft design as the pilots couldn't see what was behind them, or what was on their tail. To add to the concern of the wing design the DH5 was not a fast aircraft by any means which meant it was easy for German aircraft to catch them up if they wanted to.
The advantage was that the pilot had an excellent view in-front as no upper wing obstructed their vision. Partly as a consequence of this realisation, and the fact that during the Battle of Cambrai all available aircraft were needed to support the offensive on the ground, the DH5s were pressed into a ground attack role. It was very dangerous work and the casualty rate in No.2 Squadron was high during this period.
Griggs, unfortunately, was one of those who were lost during the support of the offensive. On November 23rd the allied offensive stalled at Moevres where three Irish Battalions where trying to take the town. An Irish company was pinned down by a German defensive position and they watched a back-staggered DH5 return to attack the position again and again; until it crashed into ground; killing Albert Griggs.
Two weeks later, the Irish Fusiliers put a notice in The Times: "To an unknown airmen, shot down on November 23rd, 1917, whilst attacking a German strongpoint south west of Bourlon Wood, in an effort to help out a company of Royal Irish Fusiliers when other help had failed."









